What’s the difference between the national debt and the federal deficit—and why does it matter? Join Phil Dean, Chief Economist at the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute, for a clear-eyed look at the state of U.S. fiscal policy, the forces driving federal borrowing, and what it means for our economic future.

Learn more about Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute: https://gardner.utah.edu/

Guests:

• Phil Dean, Chief Economist, Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute